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Fuels for space
==Outline of MIT syn bio tea talk==
 
1) Applications of syn bio to space
 
==[[photosynthetic Chassis Choice]]==
 
===Diatoms===
Research Article
[[The Genome of the Diatom Thalassiosira Pseudonana: Ecology, Evolution, and Metabolism]]
 
==Fuels for space==


*Notes from speaking to David Thompson
*Notes from speaking to David Thompson
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*Hydrogen - via the biohydrogen route  
*Hydrogen - via the biohydrogen route  


*nitrogenase, the enzyme that fixes N2 to NH3, as a normal part of its function it produces H2. (Hydrogen-2, H-2, 2H (a.k.a. Deuterium), an isotope of Hydrogen (1 proton, 1 neutron, 1 electron))
*nitrogenase, the enzyme that fixes N2 to NH3(amonia)ozene
, as a normal part of its function it produces H2 albeit at a much slower rate than NH3, its a side reaction.    but if you force the reaction in an atmosphere with zero nitrogen, then you get H2 production exclusively.
(Hydrogen-2, H-2, 2H (a.k.a. Deuterium), an isotope of Hydrogen (1 proton, 1 neutron, 1 electron))
 
===Hydrizine===
*Deep sea bacteria that make hydrazine as a free metabolic intermediate. (Hydrazine is used as a bipropellant in combination with O2 I (DT) believe,and some of its derivatives are used in combination with other liquid rocket fuels...)
http://www.anammox.com/  is a resource for research on those particular bacteria.
 
==Guanidine==
A strongly alkaline crystalline compound, NHC(NH2)2, formed by the oxidation of guanine and found in the urine as a normal product of protein metabolism. It is commonly used in the organic synthesis of plastics, resins, and explosives. (answers.com)
Guanine production was hypothetical, it would involve tweaking the purine biosynthetic pathway, and i think i mentioned a purine efflux pump... http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=181001
 
 
making TAL for TATB production was from this paper http://www.chemeng.uiuc.edu/~zhaogrp/images/HZ24-JACS%20Fas-B%20Engineering%202004.pdf
 
 
phloroglucinol: http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/jacsat/2005/127/i15/pdf/ja042340g.pdf
 
ammonia, formaldehyde --> hexamine (fireproofing, plastics) --> hexogen/RDX
 
 
 
 
 
toluene, sulfuric acid, nitric acid  --> trinitrotoluene
 
 
 
 
 
acetone, sulfuric acid, hydrogen peroxide -->  acetone Peroxide/TATP
 
 
 
 
guanine --> nitroguanidine
 
 
 
 
 
malonyl-CoA -->  triacetic acid lactone --> LCD's
 
side product is phloroglucinol (can make adhesives)
 
 
 
 
 
ammonia, formaldehyde
 
 




1:42 PM albeit at a much slower rate than NH3, its a side reaction.
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  but if you force the reaction in an atmosphere with zero nitrogen, then you get H2 production exclusively.
1:43 PM For other sources of fuel... a lot of them are 1) toxic and 2) high energy compounds.
  hard to find biological systems that invest in them.
  but there are some deep sea bacteria that make hydrazine as a free metabolic intermediate.
me: by high energy compounds you mean things like fats?
David: high energy as in the bonds themselves are high energy... like in TNT or something.
1:44 PM me: ok
David: Hydrazine is used as a bipropellant in combination with O2 i believe.
  and some of its derivatives are used in combination with other liquid rocket fuels...
me: is anyone on a chat client that can copy paste our text? I want to write down what David is saying but I can't?
1:45 PM David: http://www.anammox.com/
  is a resource for research on those particular bacteria.
Jason:

Latest revision as of 10:51, 25 March 2008

Outline of MIT syn bio tea talk

1) Applications of syn bio to space

photosynthetic Chassis Choice

Diatoms

Research Article The Genome of the Diatom Thalassiosira Pseudonana: Ecology, Evolution, and Metabolism

Fuels for space

  • Notes from speaking to David Thompson
  • Oxygen - O2 as byproduct of photosynthesis
  • Hydrogen - via the biohydrogen route
  • nitrogenase, the enzyme that fixes N2 to NH3(amonia)ozene

, as a normal part of its function it produces H2 albeit at a much slower rate than NH3, its a side reaction. but if you force the reaction in an atmosphere with zero nitrogen, then you get H2 production exclusively. (Hydrogen-2, H-2, 2H (a.k.a. Deuterium), an isotope of Hydrogen (1 proton, 1 neutron, 1 electron))

Hydrizine

  • Deep sea bacteria that make hydrazine as a free metabolic intermediate. (Hydrazine is used as a bipropellant in combination with O2 I (DT) believe,and some of its derivatives are used in combination with other liquid rocket fuels...)

http://www.anammox.com/ is a resource for research on those particular bacteria.

Guanidine

A strongly alkaline crystalline compound, NHC(NH2)2, formed by the oxidation of guanine and found in the urine as a normal product of protein metabolism. It is commonly used in the organic synthesis of plastics, resins, and explosives. (answers.com) Guanine production was hypothetical, it would involve tweaking the purine biosynthetic pathway, and i think i mentioned a purine efflux pump... http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=181001


making TAL for TATB production was from this paper http://www.chemeng.uiuc.edu/~zhaogrp/images/HZ24-JACS%20Fas-B%20Engineering%202004.pdf


phloroglucinol: http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/jacsat/2005/127/i15/pdf/ja042340g.pdf

ammonia, formaldehyde --> hexamine (fireproofing, plastics) --> hexogen/RDX



toluene, sulfuric acid, nitric acid --> trinitrotoluene



acetone, sulfuric acid, hydrogen peroxide --> acetone Peroxide/TATP



guanine --> nitroguanidine



malonyl-CoA --> triacetic acid lactone --> LCD's

side product is phloroglucinol (can make adhesives)



ammonia, formaldehyde



Parts: