Koch Lab:Research/MediaWiki for Open Science

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*** [[User:Steven J. Koch|Steve Koch]] 21:41, 26 January 2009 (EST): That worked really well!  I am worried, though, that it would be confusing for people, since the text appears there without being obvious that it's not part of the current page.  There may be other implementation as well, but you're right, it may be very close to what we need.  What do you think about the possibility of you modifying it?  Any experience with that to know what's involved?
*** [[User:Steven J. Koch|Steve Koch]] 21:41, 26 January 2009 (EST): That worked really well!  I am worried, though, that it would be confusing for people, since the text appears there without being obvious that it's not part of the current page.  There may be other implementation as well, but you're right, it may be very close to what we need.  What do you think about the possibility of you modifying it?  Any experience with that to know what's involved?
*** [[User:Cmorse|Cmorse]] 23:40, 26 January 2009 (EST) Modifying it is definitely doable. The existing extension was pretty old and I had to modify it just to get it working. I'll see what I can cook up.
*** [[User:Cmorse|Cmorse]] 23:40, 26 January 2009 (EST) Modifying it is definitely doable. The existing extension was pretty old and I had to modify it just to get it working. I'll see what I can cook up.
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*** [[User:Cmorse|Cmorse]] 02:51, 28 January 2009 (EST) I'm getting close to a working solution. In its final state I think its going to give the user a small prompt above the edit box if changes might have been lost. I'm also adding the ability to disable the extension in case it was causing problems.

Revision as of 03:51, 28 January 2009

We can use this set of pages for Caleb's open research project which is generally related to using MediaWiki for open science applications. This page was created on December 31, 2008, and we'll try to fill it in over the following weeks.

We're going to use DPL Goals as part of organizing the project. See User:Cmorse/Tasks and goals.

Possible projects

  • working out a system for secure email to wiki
  • A feature to enable word clouds from the wiki data base. For example, wordles of user contributions would be really fun and probably increase interest in OWW.
    • Would a cloud containing the most common page categories work?
  • A system to make categories much easier in MW. So it can become more like tagging in other Web 2.0 sites
  • A system for easily linking to permalinks of specific protocols (for lab notebook purposes).
    • What kind of protocols?
  • "Auto save" for pages. One option is a new button called "Save and continue editing," which would work like the preview button, but would actually save a version.
    • This looks like something that I could do with a plugin pretty quickly. I'm interested in hearing about why you would like to see this added. There might be a more advantageous way to Fix the problem. --Cmorse 12:23, 26 January 2009 (EST)
    • It's for the purposes of lab notebooks, where you tend to take a lot of little bits of notes over the course of hours. People are reluctant to save every little edit--it's annoying to have to open the text box and find your place again. And waiting to save has the risk of losing everything. I figure by having a button like "save and continue editing" it would be just like previewing, except the previewed changes would actually be saved into a new entry. Presumably the wiki data base is differential, so this won't add burden to the data base. Ideally, the electronic lab notebook would have the feature of paper, where it's very easy to jot down notes, and when you jot them down, they're immediately recorded and the ink never mysteriously vanishes if you forget to "save." Of course people lose paper all the time, so electronic can be even better than paper in this regard.
    • I think I found the perfect extension for this. It's called LiveSaver: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiveSaver. Essentially it automatically saves any changes you make to the page in the browser as a cookie. So that if something happens to the page you can come back and it will have all of your changes saved.
      • You can try out that extension here: http://kochlab.org:81/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page. Try making changes to the page, close the tab you made the changes on, then go back to the same edit page again.
      • Steve Koch 21:41, 26 January 2009 (EST): That worked really well! I am worried, though, that it would be confusing for people, since the text appears there without being obvious that it's not part of the current page. There may be other implementation as well, but you're right, it may be very close to what we need. What do you think about the possibility of you modifying it? Any experience with that to know what's involved?
      • Cmorse 23:40, 26 January 2009 (EST) Modifying it is definitely doable. The existing extension was pretty old and I had to modify it just to get it working. I'll see what I can cook up.
      • Cmorse 02:51, 28 January 2009 (EST) I'm getting close to a working solution. In its final state I think its going to give the user a small prompt above the edit box if changes might have been lost. I'm also adding the ability to disable the extension in case it was causing problems.
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