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===My Notes=== | ===My Notes=== | ||
*Per Anne Ozaksut (see below): spreadsheet functionality would be a killer feature to add. | |||
*Java sketch pad (and some mechanism for converting to text)? | *Java sketch pad (and some mechanism for converting to text)? | ||
*Copyright and licensing problems | *Copyright and licensing problems--it is fine to paste any kind of picture or anything in a printed lab notebook as "fair use" (I think). But it's not OK to upload to OWW, because technically you are putting a "copyleft" license on it. (And it may not be fair use, since it's so widely available?) This is a problem. | ||
*Better file uploading--drag and drop w/ version control | *Better file uploading--drag and drop w/ version control | ||
*Integration w/ WikiCommons or Wikipedia: (i.e., like for Wikipedia when you can embed images from the Commons) | *Integration w/ WikiCommons or Wikipedia: (i.e., like for Wikipedia when you can embed images from the Commons) | ||
===From observing my Junior Physics Lab Students=== | |||
* They are drawn to Excel because I haven't provided them a better option and the wiki doesn't do any spreadsheet, graphing, or data analysis. | |||
* They like the table editor | |||
* Many of them prefer to take data down on paper and then transfer it over. So far I'm not requiring e-notebook for primary entries, because sometimes it is necessary (computer not available, or need to have lights off and eyes adjusted). | |||
* As far as giving feedback early and often, e-notebooks are far superior to printed notebooks, simply because I can access them anytime. | |||
* I haven't detected any qualms at all about doing their work in public. So, it appears easy to create Scientists 2.0. :) | |||
* Collaboration (and proper citation) between students, even on different lab days has been a real pleasure to observe...I think the wiki has added a completely new and very rewarding dimension to the traditional undergrad physics lab course. | |||
===From [[Physics307L]] students=== | ===From [[Physics307L]] students=== | ||
Revision as of 21:22, 2 October 2007
My Notes
- Per Anne Ozaksut (see below): spreadsheet functionality would be a killer feature to add.
- Java sketch pad (and some mechanism for converting to text)?
- Copyright and licensing problems--it is fine to paste any kind of picture or anything in a printed lab notebook as "fair use" (I think). But it's not OK to upload to OWW, because technically you are putting a "copyleft" license on it. (And it may not be fair use, since it's so widely available?) This is a problem.
- Better file uploading--drag and drop w/ version control
- Integration w/ WikiCommons or Wikipedia: (i.e., like for Wikipedia when you can embed images from the Commons)
From observing my Junior Physics Lab Students
- They are drawn to Excel because I haven't provided them a better option and the wiki doesn't do any spreadsheet, graphing, or data analysis.
- They like the table editor
- Many of them prefer to take data down on paper and then transfer it over. So far I'm not requiring e-notebook for primary entries, because sometimes it is necessary (computer not available, or need to have lights off and eyes adjusted).
- As far as giving feedback early and often, e-notebooks are far superior to printed notebooks, simply because I can access them anytime.
- I haven't detected any qualms at all about doing their work in public. So, it appears easy to create Scientists 2.0. :)
- Collaboration (and proper citation) between students, even on different lab days has been a real pleasure to observe...I think the wiki has added a completely new and very rewarding dimension to the traditional undergrad physics lab course.
From Physics307L students
- A great idea from Anne Ozaksut, a student in Phyiscs 307L: Incorporate more spreadsheet and even graphing technology into the wiki. I have seen this with wikicalc, which I think was in collaboration with SocialText? The more I think about it, the more important it seems.
- The short-lived cookies (session doesn't last very long, even if you change this under "my preferences") is a real annoying thing
- The new table editor is great, but has a couple drawbacks
- Has a bug so that data is lost when saving
- Apparently creates non-wiki style table code that is tough to edit without the editor? (I'm not sure about this)
Links from Tom Knight, with a few comments from me
- There are commercial products in this space
- Study commercial products for good ideas and steal them.
- http://www.atriumresearch.com/html/eln.htm
- http://www.the-scientist.com/article/display/23172/
- http://www.labtrack.com/
- http://www.chem.agilent.com/Scripts/PCol.asp?lPage=58531
- http://www.medibix.com/CompanySearch.jsp?cs_choice=c&clt_choice=t&treepath=16793&stype=i
- There are other open source projects in this space.
- http://usefulchem.wikispaces.com/ (seems that e-notebook is just a wiki?)
- http://www.ercim.org/publication/Ercim_News/enw46/mackay.html (Hardware)
- http://www.thelabnotebook.com/ (looks clunky and I don't want to register to find out more)
- http://www.opensourceeln.org/Members/webmaster/core/front.txt (open source version of their commercial ELN software)
- http://sourceforge.net/projects/eln (not sure what this is)
- http://www.neuroscholar.org/eln.html (seems complicated and not wiki-based)
- http://www.csm.ornl.gov/~geist/java/applets/enote/ (this page has a list of features that would be good to look over)
- http://collaboratory.emsl.pnl.gov/software/eln/
- http://www.prep.biotech.vt.edu/ (not immediately relevant)
- See this article on capturing semantic information in the ELN.
