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Etchevers: /* Search within tags/categories */

2008-09-05T13:02:49Z

Search within tags/categories

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	*'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 09:56, 17 July 2007 (EDT):''' Would be nice to be able to have a 'search protocols' box. If we had tags/categories working well, it seems like this is something that could be implemented fairly easily. If it was well done it would probably remove the need for an auto-generated, well-organized summary page (e.g. [[Protocols]] could be replaced by a search box). This will become more important down the line as I suspect the single summary page won't scale.		*'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 09:56, 17 July 2007 (EDT):''' Would be nice to be able to have a 'search protocols' box. If we had tags/categories working well, it seems like this is something that could be implemented fairly easily. If it was well done it would probably remove the need for an auto-generated, well-organized summary page (e.g. [[Protocols]] could be replaced by a search box). This will become more important down the line as I suspect the single summary page won't scale.
		+	*'''[[User:Etchevers\|Alethea]] 09:02, 5 September 2008 (EDT)''': ''Is'' there a tag search capacity somewhere? Am I the only person who ''still'' can not conduct a successful search from either the lefthand navigation pane, or from within my lab notebook, and does this have more to do with my navigator or platform than with OWW?

	==Private/public lab notebooks==		==Private/public lab notebooks==

Steven J. Koch at 07:16, 16 April 2008

2008-04-16T07:16:44Z

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	*Distribute information from [[OpenWetWare:Ideas/IdeasArchive]] to respective areas.		*Distribute information from [[OpenWetWare:Ideas/IdeasArchive]] to respective areas.
	*Firm up one of these ideas and put it on the official [[OpenWetWare:To do list\|to do list]].		*Firm up one of these ideas and put it on the official [[OpenWetWare:To do list\|to do list]].
		+	==Use of Mediawiki commons on OWW?==
		+	[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steve Koch]] 03:16, 16 April 2008 (EDT):Has it been discussed previously the possibility of using images from Mediawiki commons on OWW. The way Wikipedia does it, so that you can use the same <nowiki>[[Image:whatever.png]]</nowiki> and if it doesn’t exist on OWW it will try to grab it from the commons? I would use this in my research pages and my courses. (It would also be convenient if private wikis could use public wiki images (and templates) in a similar manner.) I have no clue how hard this is to implement (I was just reminded of it today due to our discussion about tracking MediaWiki with OWW)…maybe it is easily copied from Wikipedia?

	==Invitations==		==Invitations==

Bill Flanagan: /* Invitations */

2008-02-13T20:10:31Z

Invitations

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	*'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 08:44, 8 August 2007 (EDT):''' Should have a button/page that allows people to easily invite their friends/labmates to join OWW. This is more relevant if we establish lab groups, etc, where we are storing the connections between users. E.g. a person could join and then invite their whole lab, adding all of them to the group 'Endy lab' or whatever all in one shot.		*'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 08:44, 8 August 2007 (EDT):''' Should have a button/page that allows people to easily invite their friends/labmates to join OWW. This is more relevant if we establish lab groups, etc, where we are storing the connections between users. E.g. a person could join and then invite their whole lab, adding all of them to the group 'Endy lab' or whatever all in one shot.
	:Agree--[[User:Dan Bolser\|Dan]] 14:04, 13 February 2008 (CST)		:Agree--[[User:Dan Bolser\|Dan]] 14:04, 13 February 2008 (CST)
		+	**'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|wjf]] 14:10, 13 February 2008 (CST)''':I did something like this before. It's pretty simple. Al would be needed would be a form and an emai message. Hmm... let's think about it. I like the idea. You would also get an email message when the user joined.

	==Search within tags/categories==		==Search within tags/categories==

Dan Bolser: /* Invitations */

2008-02-13T20:04:20Z

Invitations

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	*'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 08:44, 8 August 2007 (EDT):''' Should have a button/page that allows people to easily invite their friends/labmates to join OWW. This is more relevant if we establish lab groups, etc, where we are storing the connections between users. E.g. a person could join and then invite their whole lab, adding all of them to the group 'Endy lab' or whatever all in one shot.		*'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 08:44, 8 August 2007 (EDT):''' Should have a button/page that allows people to easily invite their friends/labmates to join OWW. This is more relevant if we establish lab groups, etc, where we are storing the connections between users. E.g. a person could join and then invite their whole lab, adding all of them to the group 'Endy lab' or whatever all in one shot.
		+	:Agree--[[User:Dan Bolser\|Dan]] 14:04, 13 February 2008 (CST)

	==Search within tags/categories==		==Search within tags/categories==

Ricardo Vidal: /* Private/public lab notebooks */

2007-08-28T00:18:42Z

Private/public lab notebooks

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	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.
	*#'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 16:04, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':I did have the "remember me" checked, and have since the beginning (and I just double-checked). I remember some discussion of this from several months ago. Maybe it is some other quirk, such as because I am a member of a private wiki? (I actually have no problem being signed on permanently to the private wiki, even though my public wiki session expires very quickly.)		*#'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 16:04, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':I did have the "remember me" checked, and have since the beginning (and I just double-checked). I remember some discussion of this from several months ago. Maybe it is some other quirk, such as because I am a member of a private wiki? (I actually have no problem being signed on permanently to the private wiki, even though my public wiki session expires very quickly.)
		+	*#'''[[User:Ricardo Vidal\|Ricardo Vidal]] 20:18, 27 August 2007 (EDT)''': I too have noticed that the cookie expires too quickly. Could it be a browser issue? I don't have access to the private wiki so it's probably not related.

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Steven J. Koch: /* Private/public lab notebooks */

2007-08-18T03:51:09Z

Private/public lab notebooks

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	***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.		***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.
	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.
-	*#'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 16:04, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':I did have the "remember me" checked, and have since the beginning (and I just double-checked). I remember some discussion of this from several months ago. Maybe it is some other quirk?	+	*#'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 16:04, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':I did have the "remember me" checked, and have since the beginning (and I just double-checked). I remember some discussion of this from several months ago. Maybe it is some other quirk, such as because I am a member of a private wiki? (I actually have no problem being signed on permanently to the private wiki, even though my public wiki session expires very quickly.)

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Jason R. Kelly: /* Private/public lab notebooks */

2007-08-17T00:50:48Z

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	**#'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.		**#'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.
	**#:'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 09:15, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''':I haven't used LiveJournal (yeah I know, behind the times), but here is what I was thinking that wouldn't require code: We have a regular OWW account with name "Koch Lab". We have a cheap computer in the lab that is always logged on to OWW as "Koch Lab." Multiple browser windows or tabs are open to various project lab notebooks. So, two students could be working on project #1 and go to that page and add an entry such as: "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>:Me and so and so made this sample and we saw this and that." and the entry would be signed as "koch lab." I don't know if that is the best idea, but that's what I was thinking. It would be easy, but maybe there's a problem I'm not seeing.		**#:'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 09:15, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''':I haven't used LiveJournal (yeah I know, behind the times), but here is what I was thinking that wouldn't require code: We have a regular OWW account with name "Koch Lab". We have a cheap computer in the lab that is always logged on to OWW as "Koch Lab." Multiple browser windows or tabs are open to various project lab notebooks. So, two students could be working on project #1 and go to that page and add an entry such as: "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>:Me and so and so made this sample and we saw this and that." and the entry would be signed as "koch lab." I don't know if that is the best idea, but that's what I was thinking. It would be easy, but maybe there's a problem I'm not seeing.
		+	**#'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 20:50, 16 August 2007 (EDT):'''The reason we currently don't allow group logins is mostly because knowing who makes an edit helps OWW members be more comfortable with allowing others to edit their work. There's more social pressure against inappropriate edits when you are using you own name than if you are shielded by a group account. Also, you can use it as another metric for quality (e.g. "oh, steve's a smart guy, his change to this protocol is probably legit...") I hadn't considered the shared computer issue though, don't know if solving that is worth the trade off of allowing anonymity.
	***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.		***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.
	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.

Steven J. Koch at 13:15, 16 August 2007

2007-08-16T13:15:16Z

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	***'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 15:26, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':One thing I want in my lab is one or a couple "cheap" computers that are pretty much just for entering notes on the wiki. In this case, seemingly trivial barriers to using the wiki can prevent users from entering things in their lab notebook. For example, making sure the computer is always on, unlocked, with browser on OWW page, and keyboard usable with gloves on. Here are some things that come to mind that can help from the OWW side:		***'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 15:26, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':One thing I want in my lab is one or a couple "cheap" computers that are pretty much just for entering notes on the wiki. In this case, seemingly trivial barriers to using the wiki can prevent users from entering things in their lab notebook. For example, making sure the computer is always on, unlocked, with browser on OWW page, and keyboard usable with gloves on. Here are some things that come to mind that can help from the OWW side:
	***# Group signons (such as "Koch Lab") for making edits. Users could sign their entries with the group identity (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) followed by their real name (which they can manually type). The reason this may help is because users are reluctant to use other people's signon and as trivial as it sounds, people aren't going to log off and back on to add a simple lab notebook entry. Also, group work is common. As far as I know, this wouldn't require code, just a policy to allow user accounts of the type "Koch Lab."		***# Group signons (such as "Koch Lab") for making edits. Users could sign their entries with the group identity (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) followed by their real name (which they can manually type). The reason this may help is because users are reluctant to use other people's signon and as trivial as it sounds, people aren't going to log off and back on to add a simple lab notebook entry. Also, group work is common. As far as I know, this wouldn't require code, just a policy to allow user accounts of the type "Koch Lab."
-	****'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.	+	**#'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.
		+	**#:'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 09:15, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''':I haven't used LiveJournal (yeah I know, behind the times), but here is what I was thinking that wouldn't require code: We have a regular OWW account with name "Koch Lab". We have a cheap computer in the lab that is always logged on to OWW as "Koch Lab." Multiple browser windows or tabs are open to various project lab notebooks. So, two students could be working on project #1 and go to that page and add an entry such as: "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>:Me and so and so made this sample and we saw this and that." and the entry would be signed as "koch lab." I don't know if that is the best idea, but that's what I was thinking. It would be easy, but maybe there's a problem I'm not seeing.
	***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.		***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.
	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.

Bill Flanagan: /* Private/public lab notebooks */

2007-08-16T11:55:06Z

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	***'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 15:26, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':One thing I want in my lab is one or a couple "cheap" computers that are pretty much just for entering notes on the wiki. In this case, seemingly trivial barriers to using the wiki can prevent users from entering things in their lab notebook. For example, making sure the computer is always on, unlocked, with browser on OWW page, and keyboard usable with gloves on. Here are some things that come to mind that can help from the OWW side:		***'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 15:26, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':One thing I want in my lab is one or a couple "cheap" computers that are pretty much just for entering notes on the wiki. In this case, seemingly trivial barriers to using the wiki can prevent users from entering things in their lab notebook. For example, making sure the computer is always on, unlocked, with browser on OWW page, and keyboard usable with gloves on. Here are some things that come to mind that can help from the OWW side:
	***# Group signons (such as "Koch Lab") for making edits. Users could sign their entries with the group identity (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) followed by their real name (which they can manually type). The reason this may help is because users are reluctant to use other people's signon and as trivial as it sounds, people aren't going to log off and back on to add a simple lab notebook entry. Also, group work is common. As far as I know, this wouldn't require code, just a policy to allow user accounts of the type "Koch Lab."		***# Group signons (such as "Koch Lab") for making edits. Users could sign their entries with the group identity (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) followed by their real name (which they can manually type). The reason this may help is because users are reluctant to use other people's signon and as trivial as it sounds, people aren't going to log off and back on to add a simple lab notebook entry. Also, group work is common. As far as I know, this wouldn't require code, just a policy to allow user accounts of the type "Koch Lab."
		+	****'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.
	***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.		***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.
	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.

Steven J. Koch: /* Private/public lab notebooks */

2007-08-13T20:04:23Z

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	***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.		***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.
	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.
		+	*#'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 16:04, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''':I did have the "remember me" checked, and have since the beginning (and I just double-checked). I remember some discussion of this from several months ago. Maybe it is some other quirk?

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	**#'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.		**#'''[[User:Bill Flanagan\|Bill Flanagan]] 7:36, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''': Steve, if this is for "write-only" updates, there may be another way to do this. I like your idea of a "group login". Let me understand your requirement a little better. Do you need this for general OWW access, where you would be skipping around between several pages or would most of the updates be to a single page? If the updates for each user were all to go to one page, such as a page in a lab notebook, I can imagine a model where we could continuously append updates for a user to the end of a page or within a specified section within a page. Maybe something like "live journal". You could then go back to clean up the page when you take off the gloves (or not!) and get back to your own PC. All of the captured updates could be tagged with their update time. You could append a line or even an entire page. If you specified a section that didn't exist within the page, it could be appended to the end of it.
	**#:'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 09:15, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''':I haven't used LiveJournal (yeah I know, behind the times), but here is what I was thinking that wouldn't require code: We have a regular OWW account with name "Koch Lab". We have a cheap computer in the lab that is always logged on to OWW as "Koch Lab." Multiple browser windows or tabs are open to various project lab notebooks. So, two students could be working on project #1 and go to that page and add an entry such as: "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>:Me and so and so made this sample and we saw this and that." and the entry would be signed as "koch lab." I don't know if that is the best idea, but that's what I was thinking. It would be easy, but maybe there's a problem I'm not seeing.		**#:'''[[User:Steven J. Koch\|Steven J. Koch]] 09:15, 16 August 2007 (EDT)''':I haven't used LiveJournal (yeah I know, behind the times), but here is what I was thinking that wouldn't require code: We have a regular OWW account with name "Koch Lab". We have a cheap computer in the lab that is always logged on to OWW as "Koch Lab." Multiple browser windows or tabs are open to various project lab notebooks. So, two students could be working on project #1 and go to that page and add an entry such as: "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>:Me and so and so made this sample and we saw this and that." and the entry would be signed as "koch lab." I don't know if that is the best idea, but that's what I was thinking. It would be easy, but maybe there's a problem I'm not seeing.
		+	**#'''[[User:Jason R. Kelly\|Jason R. Kelly]] 20:50, 16 August 2007 (EDT):'''The reason we currently don't allow group logins is mostly because knowing who makes an edit helps OWW members be more comfortable with allowing others to edit their work. There's more social pressure against inappropriate edits when you are using you own name than if you are shielded by a group account. Also, you can use it as another metric for quality (e.g. "oh, steve's a smart guy, his change to this protocol is probably legit...") I hadn't considered the shared computer issue though, don't know if solving that is worth the trade off of allowing anonymity.
	***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.		***#Longer-lived sign-on cookies. For some reason, my public OWW account expires very quickly. Private wiki doesn't seem to ever expire. In terms of conveneneince mentioned in item #1 above, a very long-lived sign on would be good.
	**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.		**#'''[[User:Austin J. Che\|Austin Che]] 15:44, 13 August 2007 (EDT)''': Under your preferences on the public wiki, click 'remember me' (and do this when you log in also). On the private wiki, this option is automatically set for you.