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| Notes will be here for March 9 SC meeting. | | '''Notes from the March 9, 2007 steering committee meeting.''' |
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| | [[Media:OWW SC 20070309.mp3|Audio]] from meeting. |
| 11:03:38 ‹Bcanton› I hope so.
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| 11:07:36 ‹Bcanton› Austin's phonebridge seems to be up and working. Let's just hope it can be connected to the MIT phone bridge
| | [[OpenWetWare talk:Steering committee/Meeting - March 2007|Chat session from the meeting]] |
| 11:11:01 ‹Macowell› howdy
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| 11:18:49 ‹Macowell› Hey Berry, can you ask jason if the MIT soundbridge is up yet?
| | ==Positions== |
| 11:30:30 ‹Jasonk› it should be up at 11:30
| | [[OpenWetWare:Steering committee/What positions would be useful?| new SC Positions]] |
| 11:30:59 ‹Jasonk› uh, now i guess.
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| 11:31:54 ‹Bcanton› can we get Austin to link the two soundbridges now?
| | ==Communications== |
| 11:38:02 ‹Macowell› I'll go ask him
| | ===Blogs=== |
| 11:40:44 ‹Jasonk› i am in the MIT soundbridge at the moment
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| 11:40:46 ‹Macowell› Ok.
| | RSS -- Way to make RSS feeds on certain pages. Why just the recent changes. Would be useful. Approved as worthwhile extension. |
| 11:41:07 ‹Johncumbers› I'm just going to download the software and try it,
| | iFrame -- way to imbed other pages... could put other pages. |
| 11:41:15 ‹Johncumbers› can I join the call late austin?
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| 11:41:21 ‹Macowell› good idea
| | Send a link to blogs on Mediawiki to Mac |
| 11:41:54 ‹Bcanton› gizmo seems to work well on a mac if that's relevant
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| 11:42:25 ‹Austin› you can join the call at anytime
| | ===[[OpenWetWare:Reviews]]=== |
| 11:42:32 ‹Austin› note that gizmo seems to require registration with them
| | * always up-to-date scientific reviews maintained by the OWW community. Sign up to write one / curate one, or join the [[List:Reviews|mailing list]] if you want to help out. |
| 11:42:38 ‹Austin› there's probably just as good free ones that don't
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| 11:42:39 ‹Johncumbers› cool, just getting gizmo for the PC
| | ==Forum Software== |
| 11:43:12 ‹Johncumbers› ah, can you recommend another?
| | Main goal: |
| 11:43:34 ‹Macowell› http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software#SIP_clients
| | We're decent chat's sometime: |
| 11:44:42 ‹Johncumbers› yeah, but can anyone recommend one?
| | What discussions are going on? Where are they going on? How do we get users to feel like they are contributing? |
| 11:45:17 ‹Austin› I use twinkle but I don't think that's for PC. the xten or sjphone should be free
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| 11:45:57 ‹Ranta› Does anyone know about latency levels between SIP vs. skype? I just installed gizmo for my mac just now...
| | Good idea, bad idea? |
| 11:46:13 ‹Jasonk› oh this is going to be a carnival
| | Talked to protocol online |
| 11:46:27 ‹Bcanton› I'm using gizmo and it seems to respond pretty quick
| | LiquidThreads -> for discussion pages |
| 11:47:09 ‹Ranta› Is the SIPbridge up? ...might be worth a test...
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| 11:47:28 ‹Bcanton› yep, its up and working
| | Does it make sense to have a separate software distribution: |
| 11:49:22 ‹Ranta› got connected by didn't have any sound... might have to opt for skype after all....
| | Critical Mass of users? |
| 11:49:35 ‹Johncumbers› I
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| 11:49:58 ‹Johncumbers› I'm confused as to the difference between skype and all these VoIP wares,
| | RecentChangesDiscussion page.. Austin already made it, |
| 11:50:15 ‹Bcanton› basically, skype is a private network
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| 11:50:20 ‹Bcanton› all the others use a common standard
| | Jon implementing Pligg@openwetware.org |
| 11:50:26 ‹Johncumbers› SJphone says that I still need a provider like vonage to make calls outside of my local network
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| 11:50:33 ‹Bcanton› skype=aim
| | Link on bottom of protocol: Talk about protocol here? |
| 11:50:35 ‹Austin› that's fine
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| 11:50:36 ‹Johncumbers› but I still have to pay for all of them?
| | Most popular page... activity of changes... Ilya Should be able to do this using DynamicPageList |
| 11:50:40 ‹Bcanton› sip=jabber
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| 11:50:48 ‹Austin› you don't need to make calls outside of your local network
| | ==Subwikis== |
| 11:50:54 ‹Bcanton› no I had to register for gizmo but its free
| | *Considered doing a trial of a public subwiki, where the userbase would be shared with OWW but the wiki would be independent. If an interesting one comes along, we'll consider doing it. Not clear if this is a good idea, you can [[OpenWetWare:Steering committee/Is a web of independent public wikis a good idea?|debate it here]]. |
| 11:51:19 ‹Johncumbers› ok, I don't mind registering
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| 11:51:37 ‹Johncumbers› either way I can skype in if I don't have it set up in the next 4 mins
| | ==Software== |
| 11:52:14 ‹Jasonk› cumbers this is all on you - virtual SC meeting, craziness
| | * approved the RSS feed extension |
| 11:53:00 ‹Jasonk› no sounds effects in the meeting! gizmo users!
| | * approved the syntax highlighting extension |
| 11:53:31 ‹Jasonk› haha, this is absurd, cumbers you might want to call in so you can see what you have wrought
| | * did not approve the R extension (allows people to run MATLAB scripts on the server) for security/server load issues. |
| 11:53:54 ‹Bcanton› sorry, I just had to put myself on hold to talk to the pizza delivery guy
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| 11:54:20 ‹Jasonk› hehe, everyone will recieve a personal pizza with their favorite toppings delivered to where they are in 5 min
| | ==Board== |
| 11:54:21 ‹Lucks› hi all
| | *[[OpenWetWare:Hiring|We're hiring 2 employees]], if you know anyone good contact [[Sri Kosuri]]. |
| 11:54:44 ‹Jasonk› hi julius
| | *Talking with universities, publishers, etc about partnerships. |
| 11:57:14 ‹Lucks› is the log of this chat recorded and stored on a wiki page?
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| 11:57:23 ‹Macowell› not exactly yet
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| 11:57:39 ‹Macowell› Austin is working on it, I think.
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| 11:57:47 ‹Macowell› Hi shri
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| 11:57:58 ‹Skosuri› Hello all
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| 11:58:05 ‹Bcanton› hi sri
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| 11:58:17 ‹Johncumbers› I don't want it stored, it doesn't check my speling..
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| 12:02:29 ‹Skosuri›
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| 12:03:53 ‹Johncumbers› notetaking..
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| 12:04:25 ‹Johncumbers› Mattius is site analytics guy
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| 12:04:35 ‹Johncumbers› Jason: chair
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| 12:04:44 ‹Johncumbers› Julius: outreach Boston, Vincent Europe
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| 12:04:53 ‹Johncumbers› Secretary: John & Sri
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| 12:04:59 ‹Johncumbers› Publishing: John & Julius
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| 12:05:10 ‹Johncumbers› Jason thanks you all.
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| 12:05:28 ‹Johncumbers› Agenda: blogs, forum, public wiki
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| 12:07:29 ‹Johncumbers› was that just me, or did the line go all weird?
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| 12:07:31 ‹Bcanton› Communications chair: why not just continue to leave this up to members of the admin email list?
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| 12:08:01 ‹Bcanton› maybe we just need to find somewhere to store emails from people who say they have skill X
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| 12:08:07 ‹Jasonk› yeah i think the admin duties would go to the comm chair and their team...
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| 12:08:10 ‹Rshetty› nothing went strange for me
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| 12:08:43 ‹Austin› are we supposed to get a report from these people at each meeting?
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| 12:08:51 ‹Austin› what are these people's duties?
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| 12:09:46 ‹Rshetty› i think it explains things on that page
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| 12:09:57 ‹Rshetty› as to what each position is supposed to do
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| 12:10:30 ‹Macowell› sri, can you paste a link to an example mediawiki blog here in the chat?
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| 12:10:44 ‹Johncumbers› Implementing blog into OWW, options: iframe embed from e.g blogger. install RSS plug-in for mediawiki
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| 12:11:07 ‹Johncumbers› RSS agreed easier for now
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| 12:12:47 ‹Rshetty› here is a mediawiki blog ... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania:Blog
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| 12:13:19 ‹Johncumbers› Die Auto von Notafish
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| 12:13:32 ‹Rshetty› http://www.protocol-online.org/
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| 12:15:09 ‹Johncumbers› how to make forums integrated, or if to..
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| 12:15:15 ‹Austin› welcome ilya
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| 12:16:21 ‹Johncumbers› HI Ilya
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| 12:16:34 ‹Ilya› hi guys
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| 12:18:34 ‹Johncumbers› http://demo.pligg.com/
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| 12:18:44 ‹Bcanton› is anyone other than John having a problem hearing me?
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| 12:18:52 ‹Jasonk› nope
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| 12:19:00 ‹Rshetty› no
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| 12:19:14 ‹Ilya› no
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| 12:20:30 ‹Bcanton› I guess I think the model of people saying, I have time to waste, I'll go visit the forum and see what's happening is unlikely.
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| 12:20:33 ‹Austin› openwetware.org/index.php?S ... ecentchanges&namespace=1
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| 12:20:54 ‹Bcanton› (quotation marks don't seem to work)
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| 12:21:06 ‹Bcanton› '' ``
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| 12:21:16 ‹Austin› what?
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| 12:21:23 ‹Austin› I see
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| 12:21:28 ‹Bcanton› quotation marks between the arrows
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| 12:22:08 ‹Bcanton› I guess I think the model of people saying, ''I have time to waste, I'll go visit the forum and see what's happening'' is unlikely.
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| 12:22:16 ‹Johncumbers› So OpenId was implemented in Pligg last week by someone, : http://www.bryanhunsinger.org/
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| 12:22:51 ‹Bcanton› I think people either have a question on a specific topic or they have alerts or some sort of ''watchlist'' set up.
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| 12:22:51 ‹Jasonk› barry, well what you need is -- i have a aquestion if i post it here, someone will actually see it
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| 12:22:52 ‹Johncumbers› the code is not yet public
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| 12:23:31 ‹Bcanton› Jason - agreed, its not clear to me that a disconnected forum will solve that problem
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| 12:26:48 ‹Bcanton› we could email the protocols-online guy to ask if he has any plans to implement openID, I'm in favor of the ''partner with existing communities'' model
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| 12:27:42 ‹Rshetty› but would that be mutual ... i.e. all protocols-online users get OWW accounts?
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| 12:27:43 ‹Johncumbers› forum options: 1) e.g phpBoard with OpenId, 2) Pligg with OpenID, 3) within wikimedia
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| 12:28:03 ‹Austin› wiki chat not enabled for all oww users by default
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| 12:28:12 ‹Austin› not now
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| 12:28:17 ‹Rshetty› cause protocols-online doesn't screen applicants in any way i think
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| 12:32:25 ‹Johncumbers› you can try out OpenID, by logging into this website with your oww userpage URL http://bryanhunsinger.org/
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| 12:32:39 ‹Austin› my username already exists and it doesn't let me change it
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| 12:32:39 ‹Johncumbers› you can choose to give them your e-mail address or not
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| 12:32:57 ‹Austin› so it won't let me log in
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| 12:33:18 ‹Johncumbers› on that website I sent?
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| 12:33:31 ‹Austin› yes
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| 12:33:40 ‹Johncumbers› uname austin?
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| 12:33:40 ‹Austin› did it automatically pick a username that matches your oww one?
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| 12:34:44 ‹Johncumbers› mmm, gimme a sec
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| 12:37:34 ‹Skosuri› http://www.vbulletin.com/
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| 12:38:49 ‹Austin› protocol online uses invision forum software
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| 12:39:52 ‹Johncumbers› mmm, so that pligg openID tried to authenticate with OWW, I allowed it, but then it didn't log me in, so it looks like there is something not right. but myopenid logged me in okay..
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| 12:41:06 ‹Johncumbers› talking about approving sub-wiki's
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| 12:41:13 ‹Johncumbers› public sub-wiki's
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| 12:42:48 ‹Johncumbers› now talking about making private wiki's for all who want them
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| 12:48:50 ‹Macowell› the main benefits of using sub-wikis are: larger namespace, easier backup process
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| 12:50:30 ‹Macowell› problems: have to use interwiki links to link to content on the main oww mediawiki(? or just to other sub-wikis?), someone has to maintain the subwikis separately
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| 12:50:34 ‹Lucks› can someone give me the link to the new lab tutorial?
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| 12:51:42 ‹Rshetty› tarting_a_lab_wiki" onclick="window.open(this.href,'_blank');return false;">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Helptarting_a_lab_wiki
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| 12:51:54 ‹Rshetty› Click on Help at the left side of the page
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| 12:51:56 ‹Austin› we'll have to disable smileys
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| 12:52:55 ‹Rshetty› then look at the icons ... one is for starting a lab
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| 12:53:45 ‹Skosuri› BARRY: you are echoing
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| 12:53:52 ‹Rshetty› sorry the link i got pasted got mangled by the smilies
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| 12:54:02 ‹Rshetty› smileys
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| 12:54:34 ‹Macowell› lost half of the audio
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| 12:54:35 ‹Lucks› i got it thanks
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| 12:54:40 ‹Skosuri› lost audio
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| 12:54:56 ‹Macowell› I think we lost the mit audiobridge: berry, ?
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| 12:55:28 ‹Macowell› oh, sorry: jason, sri. Ok, they're back.
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| 12:55:29 ‹Skosuri› we're back
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| 12:56:03 ‹Macowell› I think oww will be getting content and users out of it.
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| 12:56:26 ‹Macowell› (oww will have positive benefits if igem users use it)
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| 12:56:49 ‹Bcanton› but they will be using their public subwiki not OWW and we have no tools to share content between the wikis
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| 12:57:47 ‹Macowell› reshma points out that special action would have to be taken to accomodate all the igem users.
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| 13:05:27 ‹Macowell› teering_committee/What_positions_would_be_useful" onclick="window.open(this.href,'_blank');return false;">openwetware.org/wik ... ons_would_be_useful
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| 13:11:05 ‹Macowell› 'http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Hiring'
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| 13:13:02 ‹Macowell› Oh, so that's not the correct link.
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| 13:15:40 ‹Johncumbers› me too
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| 13:16:17 ‹Skosuri› see you guys later!
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| 13:16:54 ‹Bcanton› later.
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| 13:18:05 ‹Rshetty› bye
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