Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY SyntheticBiology - Revision history

http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&feed=atom&action=history Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY SyntheticBiology - Revision history 2013-05-21T11:43:07Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.13.2 http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=673011&oldid=prev Gabriel Wu at 21:25, 4 February 2013 2013-02-04T21:25:36Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 21:25, 4 February 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>***'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 12:50, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': From the description it sounds like they haven't actually made it work at all though.  Like a lot of other DIY bio projects, it's an entertaining idea with few if any commercial applications, and it's still at the idea stage.  I guess I'm just hoping to find a DIY project that actually resulted in the product or system they wanted.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>***'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 12:50, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': From the description it sounds like they haven't actually made it work at all though.  Like a lot of other DIY bio projects, it's an entertaining idea with few if any commercial applications, and it's still at the idea stage.  I guess I'm just hoping to find a DIY project that actually resulted in the product or system they wanted.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">***'''[[User:Gabriel Wu|Gabriel Wu]] 16:25, 4 February 2013 (EST)''': The website that this project is from [http://genspace.org/page/About genspace]. It's a community based biolab in New York.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Max E. Rubinson|Max E. Rubinson]] 16:59, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': This [http://discovermagazine.com/2011/oct/21-dawn-of-the-biohackers#.UQrnWlrs05s article] discusses some basic scientific discoveries made by DIY biologists.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Max E. Rubinson|Max E. Rubinson]] 16:59, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': This [http://discovermagazine.com/2011/oct/21-dawn-of-the-biohackers#.UQrnWlrs05s article] discusses some basic scientific discoveries made by DIY biologists.</div></td></tr>  </table>

Gabriel Wu http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672817&oldid=prev Alvaro E. Rodriguez M. at 06:19, 4 February 2013 2013-02-04T06:19:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 06:19, 4 February 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 27:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 27:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 16:41, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 16:41, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 22:58, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': Can we just make a lift of DIY projects and links about them on the main page?  Is this allowed Jeff or maybe the author of the wiki can do it?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 22:58, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': Can we just make a lift of DIY projects and links about them on the main page?  Is this allowed Jeff or maybe the author of the wiki can do it?</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''[[User:Alvaro E. Rodriguez M.|Alvaro E. Rodriguez M.]] 01:19, 4 February 2013 (EST)''': Here is an interesting recent [http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130122-how-we-became-biohackers-part-1/2 article] from the BBC about biohacking.</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Alvaro E. Rodriguez M. http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672320&oldid=prev Thomas Wall at 05:00, 1 February 2013 2013-02-01T05:00:10Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 05:00, 1 February 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 16:41, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 16:41, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 22:58, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': Can we just make a lift of DIY projects and links about them on the main page?  Is this allowed Jeff or maybe the author of the wiki can do it?</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Thomas Wall http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672288&oldid=prev Thomas Wall at 02:41, 1 February 2013 2013-02-01T02:41:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 02:41, 1 February 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 13:05, 31 January 2013 (EST)''':For some reason I keep imagining a little "bacteria farm" like an ant farm where you buy some enclosed bacteria that grow through some agar such that they make interesting patterns of color. You could even rig them to evolve and diversify over time to have it stay interesting longer.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 13:05, 31 January 2013 (EST)''':For some reason I keep imagining a little "bacteria farm" like an ant farm where you buy some enclosed bacteria that grow through some agar such that they make interesting patterns of color. You could even rig them to evolve and diversify over time to have it stay interesting longer.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>-</td><td style="background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*'''[[User:Thomas Wall|Thomas Wall]] 16:41, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': </ins>I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</div></td></tr>   </table>

Thomas Wall http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672286&oldid=prev Thomas Wall at 02:39, 1 February 2013 2013-02-01T02:39:57Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 02:39, 1 February 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 13:05, 31 January 2013 (EST)''':For some reason I keep imagining a little "bacteria farm" like an ant farm where you buy some enclosed bacteria that grow through some agar such that they make interesting patterns of color. You could even rig them to evolve and diversify over time to have it stay interesting longer.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 13:05, 31 January 2013 (EST)''':For some reason I keep imagining a little "bacteria farm" like an ant farm where you buy some enclosed bacteria that grow through some agar such that they make interesting patterns of color. You could even rig them to evolve and diversify over time to have it stay interesting longer.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I always imagined that the first thing DIY biologists would do would be to modify yeast for making unique beers.  Has anyone ever done that?</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Thomas Wall http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672148&oldid=prev Max E. Rubinson at 21:59, 31 January 2013 2013-01-31T21:59:09Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 21:59, 31 January 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>***'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 12:50, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': From the description it sounds like they haven't actually made it work at all though.  Like a lot of other DIY bio projects, it's an entertaining idea with few if any commercial applications, and it's still at the idea stage.  I guess I'm just hoping to find a DIY project that actually resulted in the product or system they wanted.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>***'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 12:50, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': From the description it sounds like they haven't actually made it work at all though.  Like a lot of other DIY bio projects, it's an entertaining idea with few if any commercial applications, and it's still at the idea stage.  I guess I'm just hoping to find a DIY project that actually resulted in the product or system they wanted.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">**'''[[User:Max E. Rubinson|Max E. Rubinson]] 16:59, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': This [http://discovermagazine.com/2011/oct/21-dawn-of-the-biohackers#.UQrnWlrs05s article] discusses some basic scientific discoveries made by DIY biologists.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:53, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': I was scanning the wikipedia page on DIY bio, and saw this: "DIYbio wants to revise the notion that you must be an academic with an advanced degree to make any significant contribution to the biology community." I appreciate this attitude, but is this at all realistic? Contributing to astronomy just requires a telescope, and contributing to open source programs just requires a computer, but the huge investment for a semi-decent bio lab seems to pretty much require that the person doing the experiments have some sort of qualification (now, whether colleges actually do their job in qualifying you is another matter).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:53, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': I was scanning the wikipedia page on DIY bio, and saw this: "DIYbio wants to revise the notion that you must be an academic with an advanced degree to make any significant contribution to the biology community." I appreciate this attitude, but is this at all realistic? Contributing to astronomy just requires a telescope, and contributing to open source programs just requires a computer, but the huge investment for a semi-decent bio lab seems to pretty much require that the person doing the experiments have some sort of qualification (now, whether colleges actually do their job in qualifying you is another matter).</div></td></tr>  </table>

Max E. Rubinson http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672075&oldid=prev Jeffrey E. Barrick at 18:05, 31 January 2013 2013-01-31T18:05:41Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 18:05, 31 January 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:06, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': Here is the [http://www.ted.com/talks/ellen_jorgensen_biohacking_you_can_do_it_too.html video.] I was talking about DIY neighbor hood labs.  Dr Jorgensen also addresses the ethical side of synthetic biology. Here is the link to her lab [http://genspace.org/ Genspace]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:06, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': Here is the [http://www.ted.com/talks/ellen_jorgensen_biohacking_you_can_do_it_too.html video.] I was talking about DIY neighbor hood labs.  Dr Jorgensen also addresses the ethical side of synthetic biology. Here is the link to her lab [http://genspace.org/ Genspace]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 13:05, 31 January 2013 (EST)''':For some reason I keep imagining a little "bacteria farm" like an ant farm where you buy some enclosed bacteria that grow through some agar such that they make interesting patterns of color. You could even rig them to evolve and diversify over time to have it stay interesting longer.</ins></div></td></tr>   </table>

Jeffrey E. Barrick http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=672074&oldid=prev Benjamin Gilman at 17:50, 31 January 2013 2013-01-31T17:50:33Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 17:50, 31 January 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">***'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 12:50, 31 January 2013 (EST)''': From the description it sounds like they haven't actually made it work at all though.  Like a lot of other DIY bio projects, it's an entertaining idea with few if any commercial applications, and it's still at the idea stage.  I guess I'm just hoping to find a DIY project that actually resulted in the product or system they wanted.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:53, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': I was scanning the wikipedia page on DIY bio, and saw this: "DIYbio wants to revise the notion that you must be an academic with an advanced degree to make any significant contribution to the biology community." I appreciate this attitude, but is this at all realistic? Contributing to astronomy just requires a telescope, and contributing to open source programs just requires a computer, but the huge investment for a semi-decent bio lab seems to pretty much require that the person doing the experiments have some sort of qualification (now, whether colleges actually do their job in qualifying you is another matter).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:53, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': I was scanning the wikipedia page on DIY bio, and saw this: "DIYbio wants to revise the notion that you must be an academic with an advanced degree to make any significant contribution to the biology community." I appreciate this attitude, but is this at all realistic? Contributing to astronomy just requires a telescope, and contributing to open source programs just requires a computer, but the huge investment for a semi-decent bio lab seems to pretty much require that the person doing the experiments have some sort of qualification (now, whether colleges actually do their job in qualifying you is another matter).</div></td></tr>  </table>

Benjamin Gilman http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=671933&oldid=prev Marco D Howard at 04:32, 31 January 2013 2013-01-31T04:32:35Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 04:32, 31 January 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 19:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': We talked about identifying canine perpetrators, but is there another example that anyone knows about where a DIY bio project resulted in an actual product or a significant basic science discovery?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Benjamin Gilman|Benjamin Gilman]] 19:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': We talked about identifying canine perpetrators, but is there another example that anyone knows about where a DIY bio project resulted in an actual product or a significant basic science discovery?</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">**'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:32, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':  This guy is making quantum dot producing cells [http://genspace.org/project/Quantum%20Dot%20Biolaser Quantum Dot Biolaser]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:53, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': I was scanning the wikipedia page on DIY bio, and saw this: "DIYbio wants to revise the notion that you must be an academic with an advanced degree to make any significant contribution to the biology community." I appreciate this attitude, but is this at all realistic? Contributing to astronomy just requires a telescope, and contributing to open source programs just requires a computer, but the huge investment for a semi-decent bio lab seems to pretty much require that the person doing the experiments have some sort of qualification (now, whether colleges actually do their job in qualifying you is another matter).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>*'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:53, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': I was scanning the wikipedia page on DIY bio, and saw this: "DIYbio wants to revise the notion that you must be an academic with an advanced degree to make any significant contribution to the biology community." I appreciate this attitude, but is this at all realistic? Contributing to astronomy just requires a telescope, and contributing to open source programs just requires a computer, but the huge investment for a semi-decent bio lab seems to pretty much require that the person doing the experiments have some sort of qualification (now, whether colleges actually do their job in qualifying you is another matter).</div></td></tr>  </table>

Marco D Howard http://www.openwetware.org/index.php?title=Talk:CH391L/S13/DIY_SyntheticBiology&diff=671898&oldid=prev Marco D Howard at 04:14, 31 January 2013 2013-01-31T04:14:15Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: white; color:black;"> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr valign='top'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">←Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black;">Revision as of 04:14, 31 January 2013</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:58, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': Also, just found this [http://www.wired.com/design/2013/01/diy-bio-printer/ article in wired] from 5 days ago about a cheap DIY cell-printer. Maybe we need one for our lab...</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>**'''[[User:Neil R Gottel|Neil R Gottel]] 19:58, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': Also, just found this [http://www.wired.com/design/2013/01/diy-bio-printer/ article in wired] from 5 days ago about a cheap DIY cell-printer. Maybe we need one for our lab...</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>***'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 20:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':Cool! I might want a smaller printhead for bacteria, but this might be a way to "print" a lot of microcultures.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div>***'''[[User:Jeffrey E. Barrick|Jeffrey E. Barrick]] 20:52, 30 January 2013 (EST)''':Cool! I might want a smaller printhead for bacteria, but this might be a way to "print" a lot of microcultures.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;"><div><ins style="color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*'''[[User:Marco D Howard|Marco D Howard]] 20:06, 30 January 2013 (EST)''': Here is the [http://www.ted.com/talks/ellen_jorgensen_biohacking_you_can_do_it_too.html video.] I was talking about DIY neighbor hood labs.  Dr Jorgensen also addresses the ethical side of synthetic biology. Here is the link to her lab [http://genspace.org/ Genspace]</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

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