Talk:DIYbio:Notebook/Open Gel Box 2.0/Transilluminator

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Just registered today. I did a little digging, and was wondering why one couldn't use something like [http://www.rosco.com/us/filters/roscolux.asp Roscolux]. Granted the performance is no where near as good as a thin film bandpass filter, but in reviewing page 25 of the [http://www.google.com/patents?id=M3QMAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=blue+light+transilluminator#PPA1,M1|Clare Chemical Patent ] for the dark reader, it doesnt seem like a great deal of precision is needed. A downside is Roscolux can drift over time, but with the very lower power levels in this application, it would seem to be pretty limited. Roscolux typically being a disposable used in theatre lighting is very inexpensive. Any thoughts?  *'''[[User:Ron Amundson|Ron Amundson]] 21:37, 6 March 2009 (EST)'''
Just registered today. I did a little digging, and was wondering why one couldn't use something like [http://www.rosco.com/us/filters/roscolux.asp Roscolux]. Granted the performance is no where near as good as a thin film bandpass filter, but in reviewing page 25 of the [http://www.google.com/patents?id=M3QMAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=blue+light+transilluminator#PPA1,M1|Clare Chemical Patent ] for the dark reader, it doesnt seem like a great deal of precision is needed. A downside is Roscolux can drift over time, but with the very lower power levels in this application, it would seem to be pretty limited. Roscolux typically being a disposable used in theatre lighting is very inexpensive. Any thoughts?  *'''[[User:Ron Amundson|Ron Amundson]] 21:37, 6 March 2009 (EST)'''
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Well - I've only used this approach in a very rough way - blue handheld LED light, no excitation pre-filter, and just a small peice of cheap amber acrylic (#2422) for emission filtering. This is more than good enough for my purposes (gel band cutting and GFP bacteria colony counting) but higher-power LEDs do emit more out-of-band light and it could be tough to scale up for a gel-doc or whatever you might want to build. My acrylic piece has a transmission spectrum similar to Roscolux Deep Amber. I tried using some blue acrylic (2424) as an excitation filter but it doesn't seem to help at all, and the transmission of blue light is reduced as well. *'''[[User:Jonathan Lake|Jonathan Lake]] 12:19, 16 April 2009 (EDT)''':

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Just registered today. I did a little digging, and was wondering why one couldn't use something like Roscolux. Granted the performance is no where near as good as a thin film bandpass filter, but in reviewing page 25 of the Chemical Patent for the dark reader, it doesnt seem like a great deal of precision is needed. A downside is Roscolux can drift over time, but with the very lower power levels in this application, it would seem to be pretty limited. Roscolux typically being a disposable used in theatre lighting is very inexpensive. Any thoughts? *Ron Amundson 21:37, 6 March 2009 (EST)

Well - I've only used this approach in a very rough way - blue handheld LED light, no excitation pre-filter, and just a small peice of cheap amber acrylic (#2422) for emission filtering. This is more than good enough for my purposes (gel band cutting and GFP bacteria colony counting) but higher-power LEDs do emit more out-of-band light and it could be tough to scale up for a gel-doc or whatever you might want to build. My acrylic piece has a transmission spectrum similar to Roscolux Deep Amber. I tried using some blue acrylic (2424) as an excitation filter but it doesn't seem to help at all, and the transmission of blue light is reduced as well. *Jonathan Lake 12:19, 16 April 2009 (EDT):

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